I just installed a bypass oil filter in both my Dodge Cummins and my TDI Jetta, and I thought I should let you guys on the forum know of the results. I've been running Rotella T synthetic oil in both engines for quite a while. Just from the financial standpoint I figure it's cheaper to change a toilet paper filter and top off my oil every three months and then change the oil once a year, than it was costing me to change the oil and filter quarterly.

This is the link to the Frantz oil filter company we are talking about Frantz Oil Filters

and the place you can buy them Frantz Filters Manufactured by We Filter It! Inc - Oil, Diesel and Gas Filters . The person I was in contact with was Deborah Walker Harley her e-mail address is DWalkerHarley@wefilterit.com



The kits I ordered came with everything I needed to install them on my truckand car and both kits are completely removable so I can use them on my next car/truck. They are a really high quality made in America product that many people are still using from the 1960s when they were invented, and I can't say enough good about them. My only advice is to get a kit that doesn't require you to puncture the oil pan on your truck (use the oil fill cap or drain plug as the location for the return line) and order plenty of their oil filters (toilet paper rolls) when you place your order so you don't need to pay for shipping a second time when you need more filters.



I am not going to be able to include pictures, because my camera is not working.


Less time and money changing oil = more beer

 

IDK about using toilet paper for a filter media.

 

I almost bought me one of these but I still need info as to wheather the filter takes out the oil additives......................I need oil analysis to prove me here, in other words I am interested in the total TBN number from the sample

more info here

https://www.dieselbombers.com/show-t...ss-filter.html

 

There was a huge discussion about that filter in Germany. It was called the "Trabold filter". But worked in the same way.
They tested it several times with the same result: being not worth to be installed. It does not extend the life span of oil. The filter media isn't stable enough.
Bypass filter media has to be designed to withstand hot oil without to collapse.

You can keep down the amount of fine particles. But you aren't able to to extend the service interval. Additives are used up after a time. Oil changes its viscosity due to thermal break down.
Having longer service intervals may work in a non turbo gas engine with lower engine loads.
Our turbo driven high compression engines "wear" oil quickly. Just feel the oil between your fingers when you pour in fresh oil and do the same when you change it. The used oil feels a lot thinner than the fresh oil. Its used up.

German car manufacures don't allow that filter to be installed. But they do allow it with serious filters like the Amsoil, Hengst and Mahle.

I'm thinking about bypass filtration a while, but I wouldn't use anything less than OEM specs. A toilet paper roll doesn't look like properly engineered to me- wrong filter media.

I can watch bypass filters in nearly every military vehicle. They have a very fine filtering media, constructed of synthetic fibers. They look like a spin on filter. But those spin-on filters are huge compared with an oil filter to provide a huge filtering area.

Colour of oil has nothing to do with oil quality. Black oil only states that the oil is keeping all contaminats in flow.Much better than sticking to parts, huh?

Sorry, a toilet paper filter may work, but I don't trust them. There are manufactures around producing products mil. tested- that my measuring line.

I had a good smile as I read the testimonials. They only show one comment with a mileage of 133000. Thats nothing worth to mention. Every engine will handle that mileage. Add a zero behind it and I will start to think about it.

I always miss engine test runs with an measured wear before and afterwards the test. The dipstick showed in the other thread was from a gas engine. Oil should still be that clean after only 3k miles.But that doesn't work on a Diesel- the oil has to take the soot.

 

I had one for a while and just got tired of changing out the element so often. (every 2500 miles). I only put around 20k a year on my truck, but still that is 8 changes vs the Amsoil one every 25k. Granted the TP is darn near free vs $50 for the Amsoil filter though.

I had a small writeup/photos on the Idaho Turbo Diesels site but that place went the way of the dodo so all was lost

 

interesting Michael, I do know that soot particles are <2 micron as I run the Amsoil BE100 bypass filter, I would like to soot outa my oil too so it wouldnt get so black but as you stated the soot needs to be suspended in the oil

 

The bypass filter takes only 10% of the oil. That means it will take soot. But 90 % of the oil is still unfiltered and used as a soot carrier. Thank god- I don't want have soot sticking in the turbo bearings( tightest moving part in the engine behind VP)
As long as I now the bypass filter will take particles smaller than 5 micrometer down to 1micrometer I will be happy.
I really don't feel the need to change and dipose an oily TP roll 8 times a year.

 

the OEM filter is good to 10 micron absolute so aparently Cummins says is OK for 10 micron soot to be in the system????????

do soot particles ball up ?

 

Soot is much smaller than 5 micron - but there are still metal and dirt parts in the engine not being filtered.
As I cleaned my engine there was some soot chunked up in nocks and crannys. With the change to Synthectics they were solved and the engine is clean inside.

I don't think the OEM will get down to this small size like 10micron, but I assume filter efficency is usually measured around 30 micron. If you go smaller in the main you will restrict oil flow. A human hair has a "thickness" of 70 micrometer!

 

Myth #1
DOES OIL BREAK DOWN OR WEAR OUT?
I am often asked by a suspecting prospective customer “Doesn’t Oil Wear Out or Break Down?” This is brought about by myths, untrue stories, or mostly just by lack of knowledge of oil properties. My answer is always, “No, Oil gets dirty but it does not wear out.” This fact is substantiated by the U. S. Bureau of Standards, the Shell Oil Company, the U. S. Air Force, and many others. Combustion in an engine creates several byproducts including water, soot, carbon, heat, and gases. Let’s not concentrate on gasses because that is corrected by your smog system. Heat is another thing that is controlled by your cooling system. That leaves soot and water vapor and/or liquid. Of course metal wear is also happening and minute particles of metal or bearing material is mixed in the oil.
The water is often seen at the exhaust pipe dripping or in the form of white smoke. This is not harmful if the engine is run for a significant time for it to evaporate and dispense out the system but what happens when it doesn’t? On short runs to the post office or short trip to the store is harmful to the engine because this water doesn’t get a chance to burn off and will combine to form acid. This is bad.
Fortunately, the Frantz Oil Filter is efficient enough to eliminate or capture small quantities of water in liquid form and trap it from your lubrication system reducing the hazard to your mechanical parts. Frantz Oil Filters can remove or capture as much as six ounces of water. Do you realize how much six ounces actually is? It is 12 tablespoons, 177 milliliters, or 3/4 of a cup of liquid. Yes, similar to almost a cup of coffee.
During an experiment today, I wanted to know how much water in liquid form a typical roll of toilet paper would hold. I started out coloring 1240ml or 2.5 pints of water and used blue food coloring to better view the results. It is amazing how much water a roll of toilet paper can actually retain.