So you do have the IPR and ICP back there then?

It's easy to tell, look at the passenger side valve cover, if there isn't a large sensor passing through the valve cover, then it's back there. My guess is it's back there.

Did the truck run fine before this? It was parked for a while and now wont start? Can you give us some more details about the truck and when it was last used, any maintenance done, that kind of thing?

Should be able to tell really easily what's going on with a good scanner. Not sure if you have access to one or not. AutoEnginuity with the enhanced Ford bundle is only about $350, you just need a labtop to run it. Worth it's weight in gold.

If the IPR wires were shorted, I could imagine a no start. It regulates the flow of oil to the high pressure oil pump, so if it's not letting oil get there, it's not generating enough pressure in the high pressure oil system. If the ICP wires were messed up, I'm not sure what that'd do. I know they'll run with it unplugged. If they were shorted though, that might do funny things.

When you say the starter seems to be locked out, does this mean the engine doesn't even turn over or....?

 

Hey I'm back early. Thanks guys for your replys this morning.

No sensor in the passenger side valvue cover, just the oil filler tuibe, a control module and the Internation Truck and Engine Co lable. Both ICP and IPR sensors must be on the driver side in the rear as suspected.

Truck ran fine on on a fishing trip Thursday. And fine on Friday AM when I pulled it into the gargage. And now there it sits.

All the guages come alive but the starter will not crank, no relay noise, clicks or any indication it's getting any juice, just silence.

Check the starter fuse, ok but no juice at either pin in the fuse block. I guess I need to find a schematic of the starter circuit.

I don't have a good code reader, I don't think mine will read diesel codes, but I will try it.

Thanks for sticking with me on this, I really appreciate the help.

JJ

 

A squirrel in Mesa!?! I didn't know there was ANY wild life left in Mesa. Either way, you may want to install a cat-mod. I recommend ferrel brand, they're f'in MEAN!

Just to eliminate teh starter as coincidentally taking a dump, or getting fried when the rodent when to chewing, have you tried manually bumping the starter? I wouldn't recommend using a screw driver, a thumb bumper would be my weapon of choice.

 

I'd imagine even with the IPR or the ICP wires chewed, it would still turn over.

My guess is there are more wires chewed somewhere that you haven't found yet. This is probably really simple, and we're over-thinking this here... I need to collect my thoughts. Tough day at work yesterday led to long night at the bar which led to my current condition of my head feeling detached from my body.

Since you turn the key and gauges come up with know the batteries are functional. There's got to be a disconnect somewhere between the starter and the ignition. I think.

 

Back at it this morning. Just got off the phone with Banks and got the IQ working. It was reporting an OBD code P0603. I cleared it and did not return, likely related to updating the Banks S/W.

Karl, Just come to Mesa on a Friday night and visit one of the X-Gen bars, lots of wild creatures roaming around. Anyway that fuzzy critter is out in the desert now digging a new hole --- if he made it through the night.

707, Yeah, my bottle of scotch has been empting quicker since this problem started too.

The problem is not the starter, it's not even trying to crank. This happened once on my 2000 Ex 7.3D (which I wish I had kept). I had to have it towed to a Ford dealer to have them reset the security system. If you monkey with the batteries the security system locks out the starter. I just remembered that.

I'm going to try and disconnect both batteries and see if I can clear it that way. If that don't work I'll call Ford again.

I will keep you posted.

JJ

 

I had an 04 GT Mustang and the security system would wreak havoc on the starter. I was able to call the service adviser at Berge and get a walk through over the phone to get a re-start. Seem to recall there being a button under the dash to hold, or push, or kick. Again, ferrel cat mod and you won't need a security system either.

I also recall another Bomber having issues with his rig that defied the usual explanations, recently. Removing the Banks cleared it up.

I'll have to catch up with you some other time, JJ, it's a 12 hr one-way rid eback to the Valley for me right now.

 

P0603 is just a KAM or Keep Alive Memory code, it's nothing, don't even worry about it. You'll get it every time you do a battery disconnect, a reflash with a programmer, or something along those lines. Starting to make sense if your starter isn't seeing power, like power was broken somewhere.

FWIW, I've never really heard of a starter locking someone out on one of these trucks.

 

This time Ford came through. It was the security system. To reset the security system all I had to do was hold down the little security button under the dash and start it up. First crank and it came to life.

From another web site: Read more: How to Reset a Ford Alarm System | eHow.com How to Reset a Ford Alarm System | eHow.com

"There are two security features on a Ford. One is a personal alarm system that makes a loud noise (horn) if someone tries to break into the vehicle. This is turned on and off using a remote control key. The other system is a passive system called the Securilock. This prevents the engine from starting without the use of a coded ignition key. This is the key that comes with the vehicle from the factory that is specially coded to start the vehicle."

My Banks IQ is saying everything is A-OK, all systems normal. I'm back on the road again!!!

I really want to thank you'al, you've been a great help and allowed me to keep my cool. This forum is great. The Bombiders are great guys (and gals too). Most of the others sites I tried didn't have any posts later than 2001.

If you guys were around Mesa I'd by a round or two.

JJ

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Hey Karl, your 12 hour ride back to the Valley, that mean you live here or are you in Fallon NV?

I'd like to hook up sometime also. e-mail is jjreich@***.net

JJ

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Hey Karl, your 12 hour ride back to the Valley, that mean you live here or are you in Fallon NV?

I'd like to hook up sometime also. e-mail is jjreich@***.net

JJ

 

Hi All

Just reread the posts from June of last year. Can't believe that it's been that long since you all helped. All the squirrel problems solved, Found out how to reset the security system after disconnecting the batteries. Truck has been running fine since then.https://www.dieselbombers.com/images.../JC_hurrah.gif

Solved the problem of trying to read codes, bought a Banks Econ-o-minder controller with a IQ display. Seems to work fine. Set the power level to #5 around town and improved mileage from about 12-13mpg to about 17 average.

But another issue came up which I'll stadescribert in a new post.

Thanks again for all the help.https://www.dieselbombers.com/images/smilies/hellox.gif

JJ

 

I'm a lineman for the local phone company, squirrels cost the company millions every year.... But keeps me busy!