04 6.0L gutless until up to temp
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01-12-2012 | 04:00 PM
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Ok just went out on the highway and beat on her!!! My recordings in my Programmer- boost20psi, eot204*, ect196*, tft2880, iat122*, egt1074*... Now I forgot I had my programmer on stage 2(economy) now smoke what so ever no loss of fluids ans no noise... She had alot of power!!! But I have also noticed that my fuel mileage hasn't been so good 1/4 tank only got me 83 miles... Waiting for fuel up to get actual numbers... And my wait to start light never comes on?
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01-12-2012 | 04:58 PM
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01-13-2012 | 08:28 AM
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Hi guys.
Welcome to my Friday morning help hours. I'm usually in not-so-great condition from Thirsty Thursday, so if I start asking the same question that I asked a couple pages back, or am regurgitating things I've already told, just tell me. (I probably wont change any of it, so you're going to have to just deal with it, but you can at least let me know, and I will pretend to care
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What programmer are you using?
Stock these trucks should make 22-24psi.
Your EOT and ECT look to be in check, so far. Your EGT's are no where near "danger."
As for fuel mileage... you can't go off of a 1/4 tank man, you need to fill it up to the tippy top (this takes ~15 minutes and is not fun). Keep filling that tank until you have fuel resting in the filler neck. The pump is going to click off the first time, you've got about another 3-5 slow gallons to go, it will keep foaming up. Just hold the pump on the lowest setting and keep going til you have fuel resting there. Then drive your full tank, refill the same way and figure it out. Be sure to compensate for different size tires too.
Now, for your WTS light. Are you plugging the truck in at night? I know when I plug mine in, the light is on for a very short time, even when it's really cold. The good news is, that light is actually independent of the glow plug system. Even on a properly working system, when the light goes out, the glow plugs are still on.
The glowplugs themselves are dependant on the oil temp and altitude believe it or not. Glow plugs are on between 1 and 120 seconds, and if your oil temp is above 131*, they wont come on at all.
If you have access to a scanner we could check a few things. Do you? That'd be the quickest easiest way, otherwise you can get a multimeter and go to town. Careful with the glow plug harness, it typically breaks trying to remove it all the time, so if you do have to replace some, just get a new harness.
Measure resistance on the glow plugs and the glow plug control module. Glow plugs should fall in the .1 - 2 ohm range (not .2!) Glow plug control module should be 0-1 ohms.
If you're over 7000 feet in altitude, the glow plugs come on for 5 seconds more, but still never exceeds 120 seconds.
FWIW, these glow plug systems rarely have issues.
Welcome to my Friday morning help hours. I'm usually in not-so-great condition from Thirsty Thursday, so if I start asking the same question that I asked a couple pages back, or am regurgitating things I've already told, just tell me. (I probably wont change any of it, so you're going to have to just deal with it, but you can at least let me know, and I will pretend to care
)What programmer are you using?
Stock these trucks should make 22-24psi.
Your EOT and ECT look to be in check, so far. Your EGT's are no where near "danger."
As for fuel mileage... you can't go off of a 1/4 tank man, you need to fill it up to the tippy top (this takes ~15 minutes and is not fun). Keep filling that tank until you have fuel resting in the filler neck. The pump is going to click off the first time, you've got about another 3-5 slow gallons to go, it will keep foaming up. Just hold the pump on the lowest setting and keep going til you have fuel resting there. Then drive your full tank, refill the same way and figure it out. Be sure to compensate for different size tires too.
Now, for your WTS light. Are you plugging the truck in at night? I know when I plug mine in, the light is on for a very short time, even when it's really cold. The good news is, that light is actually independent of the glow plug system. Even on a properly working system, when the light goes out, the glow plugs are still on.
The glowplugs themselves are dependant on the oil temp and altitude believe it or not. Glow plugs are on between 1 and 120 seconds, and if your oil temp is above 131*, they wont come on at all.
If you have access to a scanner we could check a few things. Do you? That'd be the quickest easiest way, otherwise you can get a multimeter and go to town. Careful with the glow plug harness, it typically breaks trying to remove it all the time, so if you do have to replace some, just get a new harness.
Measure resistance on the glow plugs and the glow plug control module. Glow plugs should fall in the .1 - 2 ohm range (not .2!) Glow plug control module should be 0-1 ohms.
If you're over 7000 feet in altitude, the glow plugs come on for 5 seconds more, but still never exceeds 120 seconds.
FWIW, these glow plug systems rarely have issues.
#30
01-13-2012 | 08:45 AM
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Ok well my budy works for a guy in new York that has a scanner so I'll see if he can do it... The programmer is a edge evolution not the best one...(came with truck). The wts light flashes for 1 second no matter what....I have been plugging it in at night and helps with the start exapecialy bc doesn't have to warm up as much( neighbors hate the 6" stack!!!) but the truck still won't get out of its own way until up to temp and won't go over 2,000rpm without breaking up.... I want to buy a sct x3 but waiting money issues with medical to clear up an I want to get the AE... I'm worried about the HG's with the tuner tho, not sure if it's had studs done yet. Thanks guys for the help
