2 stroke oil in fuel will it pass emissions?
#3
If straight piped means you're not running cats, whats a little 2 stroke oil gonna hurt? You'll fail a visual for no cat. Unless your 1 ton didn't come with one
Next from Capt Obvious would be: How much are you using? Diesel Power magazine used 200:1 with 2 stroke oil, or about 12 ounces per 20 gallons.
Finally, the last time I had an OBD II vehicle smogged, it was a plug in and visual only, no tail pipe sniff. I'd have to say no worries if you pass with a 6 Gun.
Blocks are for building houses!
Next from Capt Obvious would be: How much are you using? Diesel Power magazine used 200:1 with 2 stroke oil, or about 12 ounces per 20 gallons.
Finally, the last time I had an OBD II vehicle smogged, it was a plug in and visual only, no tail pipe sniff. I'd have to say no worries if you pass with a 6 Gun.
Blocks are for building houses!
#4
No cat on my truck and is straight piped, passed last year with no problem. Decided to run two stroke oil and I have just been noticing a little more smoke. I mix 16oz to my 25 gallon tank. So I guess that’s about 200:1. I did hear however one ounce per gallon. It just seemed like so much. And as for the 6 gun I just leave here in the stock position. Haven’t had a problem yet.
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the six gun runs really clean. only a little smoke in stage 6.
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the six gun runs really clean. only a little smoke in stage 6.
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#5
I have a hard enough time staying on topic as it is guys! Here we go...
Exactly, it's all relative. What does your testing entail? Is there a visual? Is there a sniffer? What is it? My truck, I pull up to the garage, tell the guy I need a sticker, he scans the old one, slaps the new one on, charges me $10 for it, and off I go. So again, it's all relative.
If you're concerned about the 2 stroke oil, why not just run a tank without it, and get the test done then? Seems simple enough...
Blocks? As in rear blocks? Blocks have their advantages and disadvantages (here I go off topic). Blocks have been used on nearly every pickup since like the 30's or 40's... obviously if they were that unsafe, they wouldn't still be around. We use blocks to achieve different heights, and we also use them because it keeps a leaf spring arch somewhat normal. You get them really huge leaf's and they ride like crap. Physics again! That huge arch physically can not bend if there is no place for it to go. That's why leaf's on stock pickups are almost flat sometimes. It allows the most up and down movement with very little fore and aft movement. Obviously a larger block puts more of a "lever" and allows a lot more wheel hop, but we can fix things like this with traction bars or ladder bars. (I prefer ladder myself, but that's another topic). And of course, stacking blocks is a no-no. That's my take on it anyways.
The 6 gun only has a little smoke because it's not that much power. It doesn't really do squat for your trans either. Might jack up line pressure a touch, but that's not really enough. If it's in stock position, then it's not really doing anything right?
Removing the cat/muffler really doesn't cut any smoke out anyways IMO. It's basically like two mufflers in there (the cat doesn't resemble a gas cat). If you don't have to do the snap test (rev up the throttle and look for visible smoke) I wouldn't worry too much about it man.
I have a forum buddy from a different place that took an emissions test in Cali, while running on WVO, it passed with flying colors. In fact, it had a reading of 0 on the machine. Operator said he had never seen a vehicle get that before.
If straight piped means you're not running cats, whats a little 2 stroke oil gonna hurt? You'll fail a visual for no cat. Unless your 1 ton didn't come with one
Next from Capt Obvious would be: How much are you using? Diesel Power magazine used 200:1 with 2 stroke oil, or about 12 ounces per 20 gallons.
Finally, the last time I had an OBD II vehicle smogged, it was a plug in and visual only, no tail pipe sniff. I'd have to say no worries if you pass with a 6 Gun.
Blocks are for building houses!
Next from Capt Obvious would be: How much are you using? Diesel Power magazine used 200:1 with 2 stroke oil, or about 12 ounces per 20 gallons.
Finally, the last time I had an OBD II vehicle smogged, it was a plug in and visual only, no tail pipe sniff. I'd have to say no worries if you pass with a 6 Gun.
Blocks are for building houses!
If you're concerned about the 2 stroke oil, why not just run a tank without it, and get the test done then? Seems simple enough...
Blocks? As in rear blocks? Blocks have their advantages and disadvantages (here I go off topic). Blocks have been used on nearly every pickup since like the 30's or 40's... obviously if they were that unsafe, they wouldn't still be around. We use blocks to achieve different heights, and we also use them because it keeps a leaf spring arch somewhat normal. You get them really huge leaf's and they ride like crap. Physics again! That huge arch physically can not bend if there is no place for it to go. That's why leaf's on stock pickups are almost flat sometimes. It allows the most up and down movement with very little fore and aft movement. Obviously a larger block puts more of a "lever" and allows a lot more wheel hop, but we can fix things like this with traction bars or ladder bars. (I prefer ladder myself, but that's another topic). And of course, stacking blocks is a no-no. That's my take on it anyways.
No cat on my truck and is straight piped, passed last year with no problem. Decided to run two stroke oil and I have just been noticing a little more smoke. I mix 16oz to my 25 gallon tank. So I guess that’s about 200:1. I did hear however one ounce per gallon. It just seemed like so much. And as for the 6 gun I just leave here in the stock position. Haven’t had a problem yet.
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the six gun runs really clean. only a little smoke in stage 6.
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the six gun runs really clean. only a little smoke in stage 6.
Removing the cat/muffler really doesn't cut any smoke out anyways IMO. It's basically like two mufflers in there (the cat doesn't resemble a gas cat). If you don't have to do the snap test (rev up the throttle and look for visible smoke) I wouldn't worry too much about it man.
I have a forum buddy from a different place that took an emissions test in Cali, while running on WVO, it passed with flying colors. In fact, it had a reading of 0 on the machine. Operator said he had never seen a vehicle get that before.
#6
The testing entails everything. They are very extensive for emissions in Colorado. The visual is no problem because I do not have any cats or cat for that matter. The sniffer probe violates my tail pipe and they check coolant, tranny, power steering fluid, and oil. I’m guessing this is because they are also a repair shop. It is 60$ and I have to get it every year to get my tags. Lamo….. as for the blocks I do not care for them. I’ve seen some guys on the trail have problems with them big problems so I don’t mind the rough ride of the giant leaf springs. Yes mdub I did think of not running 2 stroke oil the month of emissions but I was wondering if it would affect anything. But just curious how did we get to talking about blocks?
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well i guess it does not matter anyway im a 7.3 guy on the 6.0 page. haha
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well i guess it does not matter anyway im a 7.3 guy on the 6.0 page. haha
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#7
Karl brought it up! Blocks are for building houses! hahaha.
So they do a visual, but you pass with a cat and muffler delete? Technically it's supposed to be visual here too, most of the guys don't know what they're looking at. Or just go to a garage that doesn't care... no plug in for me though.
So they do a visual, but you pass with a cat and muffler delete? Technically it's supposed to be visual here too, most of the guys don't know what they're looking at. Or just go to a garage that doesn't care... no plug in for me though.
#8
Well i think it’s if the truck comes from the factory with a cat then you have to run one. I have also heard if your truck does not have one you don’t have to worry about it. I think my truck came from Canada. I have read that the fords that come from Canada have no cats and day light running lights. I pulled the factory exhaust off the thing and there was no cat.
#9
Some one tons came without cats, even here in the lower 48. If it wasn't there new, you don't need it at emissions time.
Now the blocks thing was aknowledging that The hosser uses a spring lift also. Blocks have their place and thats for the guy who wants a lifted truck that rides like OEM. In the 80s, truck magazines were adamant about not stacking blocks or going taller than 4 inches. Now most lifts use stacked blocks and go well over 4 inches doing it. I've seen a 6.0 F350 with 6 inch blocks twist the poop out of the leaf springs in a truck pull. I've also seen stacked blocks get spit out. Finally, it wasn't so much the arched springs that necessitated the kidney belt in my truck as it was those STIFF nitrogen charged shocks. I had stock springs when I first lifted my truck.
Now the blocks thing was aknowledging that The hosser uses a spring lift also. Blocks have their place and thats for the guy who wants a lifted truck that rides like OEM. In the 80s, truck magazines were adamant about not stacking blocks or going taller than 4 inches. Now most lifts use stacked blocks and go well over 4 inches doing it. I've seen a 6.0 F350 with 6 inch blocks twist the poop out of the leaf springs in a truck pull. I've also seen stacked blocks get spit out. Finally, it wasn't so much the arched springs that necessitated the kidney belt in my truck as it was those STIFF nitrogen charged shocks. I had stock springs when I first lifted my truck.
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