looking for a chip for my f 350
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You can get those 3 or just call Eric and let him know what you want and he will send the 3 that best fits what you want. I do hihgly recommend at least the Xtreme for 1 of them. You will love it.
It takes about 5 minutes to switch from one tune to the next. Very simple once you get them loaded on the SCT.
It takes about 5 minutes to switch from one tune to the next. Very simple once you get them loaded on the SCT.
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sounds like the sct x3 is pretty much every thing i want it has the extrem power so i can spank all my buddys with there dodges haha and the tow haul mode with the brakeing system and the econmy so i can not drink to much dzzl haha. one more ? does it save all the stock programing if i ever want to take it complet back to stock
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yes it saves your stock file. Don't waste your money on the economy tune, it just will not help at all. I have it, it sucks. You will get better mileage out of the extreme tunes actually. The hotter tunes are more efficient, provided you can keep your foot out of it.
You can get the SCT livewire, which is similar to the edge insight, it will be a tuner/gauges all in one. I still prefer the X-cal3 and stand alone gauges myself.
Call Innovative up, they will hook you up and figure out what you need/want. They offer several tunes. I have their aggressive tow (for towing up to the GVWR of the truck), economy (waste of money), extreme street, extreme race. The extreme upgrades are $80 extra. Their Xcal3 runs about $425 with three free tunes, unless you want an extreme tune, then it's $500ish.
Also 03/04 trucks take about 5 min to upload a new tune to the truck, 05+ trucks are just under 2 min for reference.
You can get the SCT livewire, which is similar to the edge insight, it will be a tuner/gauges all in one. I still prefer the X-cal3 and stand alone gauges myself.
Call Innovative up, they will hook you up and figure out what you need/want. They offer several tunes. I have their aggressive tow (for towing up to the GVWR of the truck), economy (waste of money), extreme street, extreme race. The extreme upgrades are $80 extra. Their Xcal3 runs about $425 with three free tunes, unless you want an extreme tune, then it's $500ish.
Also 03/04 trucks take about 5 min to upload a new tune to the truck, 05+ trucks are just under 2 min for reference.
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If I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't have wasted the extra money on the Livewire. I currently use a Scanguage II to monitor such items and coolant temp, oil temp, tranny temp and then the fourth gauge is what ever I'm in the mood for.
I bought the Livewire because I thought I could read more information with it and I would use the Scanguage II in something else. The screen on the Livewire is hard to read because it seems to catch a lot of reflections from all different angles. The sun can make it very hard to read. It doesn't read as many PIDs (unless you use a laptop) The thing is big and bulkly too. So, I still use the Scangauge II, leave the Livewire in the console so that I can change programs while I am out and about if I need to.
I would get the Xcal3 and then decide what you want to do for the others (stand alone gauges, Scangauge II $150, or Insight for $200 something). I made my own mount for the Scangauge II that goes under my review mirror. I have a Glowshift fuel pressure gauge & a Glowshift EGT gauge. I love my set-up and wouldn't change a thing!
I bought the Livewire because I thought I could read more information with it and I would use the Scanguage II in something else. The screen on the Livewire is hard to read because it seems to catch a lot of reflections from all different angles. The sun can make it very hard to read. It doesn't read as many PIDs (unless you use a laptop) The thing is big and bulkly too. So, I still use the Scangauge II, leave the Livewire in the console so that I can change programs while I am out and about if I need to.
I would get the Xcal3 and then decide what you want to do for the others (stand alone gauges, Scangauge II $150, or Insight for $200 something). I made my own mount for the Scangauge II that goes under my review mirror. I have a Glowshift fuel pressure gauge & a Glowshift EGT gauge. I love my set-up and wouldn't change a thing!
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WhistlinDixie (10-30-2010)
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The only reason I say I prefer the stand-alone gauges is because using gauges like the insight and the livewire, you're still only reading whatever the truck is already reading. It just seems redundant. At least with stand-alones you have two separate systems. I've heard the readings coming from the OBD port can be off too, especially the transmission temp. Not sure how true it is, but if something goes haywire with the truck's readings, then you just get a copy of that with the OBD readers. Just my thoughts on the subject.
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i talked to some desiel shops hear in oregon and they tell me that the edge is my best bet cuz it all in one the power the stock levels to levels and the monitor. is the edge going to be a bad for my rig if i go that route. no matter what way i go the programer goign to be on a low setting 99 percent the time i aint trying to blow coils and race around
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90% of the people on these boards who have had Edge's, have sold them for SCT's. The information is here, you can buy whatever you want though.
The Edge does not tune your transmission. It's not even a true programmer, it just sends false signals to the PCM to trick it into adding more fuel and timing. The timing from some of the generic tuners is absurd, and it raises cylinder pressures tremendously. I've seen pictures of it, you can tell a truck that has had a generic programmer on because the star pattern on the pistons is way outside of the bowl (causes huge cylinder pressures.) A good custom tune with an SCT will have all of that fuel pattern in the bowl where it should be.
The Edge does not tune your transmission. It's not even a true programmer, it just sends false signals to the PCM to trick it into adding more fuel and timing. The timing from some of the generic tuners is absurd, and it raises cylinder pressures tremendously. I've seen pictures of it, you can tell a truck that has had a generic programmer on because the star pattern on the pistons is way outside of the bowl (causes huge cylinder pressures.) A good custom tune with an SCT will have all of that fuel pattern in the bowl where it should be.