04 6.0l ford puking oil thru turbo into exhaust
#11
I appreciate any input! even if its not a solution. Hopefully someone here has a little insight to this problem. When you had your turbo out, did you check your drain tube for a blockage. I replaced mine with the upgraded tube. It didn't solve it but it did seem to slow the amount of oil coming thru the turbo.
#12
@lenzhotrod
the seals in the turbo aren't meant to stop the oil from leaking thru, they are for the exhaust gases. Whats happening is for some reason the turbo is filling up with oil and not draining fast enough back into the crank case. Ive got a rebuilt turbo here and just had it checked out at the rebuilders, the seals aren't the problem. There is something else wrong with this motor and I cant find the cause. Thanks for your feedback!
the seals in the turbo aren't meant to stop the oil from leaking thru, they are for the exhaust gases. Whats happening is for some reason the turbo is filling up with oil and not draining fast enough back into the crank case. Ive got a rebuilt turbo here and just had it checked out at the rebuilders, the seals aren't the problem. There is something else wrong with this motor and I cant find the cause. Thanks for your feedback!
#13
@avatardvr when I had the turbo out I did not specifically check the drain tube for blockages, though I have significant doubts about the likelihood of anything blocking that tube (mine is the updated variety). I followed torque specs to a T on every bolt inside and outside of the turbo and all of the clamps, but something somewhere is not happy with me. Afraid I will be pulling the turbo to inspect in the next few days. If I find anything that might help you I will make sure I let you know.
#14
@smoran22
I seriously appreciate that! Something I read re: these vgt turbos is the tabs that hold the vanes, check them for wear. that wont have anything to do with the oil puking thru but if they are wore down, maybe that's the cause of your turbo hunting. As for the blockage I agree, there was nothing wrong with the old drain I pulled out but the new one was significantly larger and seemed to make a minor difference. (not that it matters , any oil coming thru the turbo is too much.) Good Luck! let me know how it goes.
I seriously appreciate that! Something I read re: these vgt turbos is the tabs that hold the vanes, check them for wear. that wont have anything to do with the oil puking thru but if they are wore down, maybe that's the cause of your turbo hunting. As for the blockage I agree, there was nothing wrong with the old drain I pulled out but the new one was significantly larger and seemed to make a minor difference. (not that it matters , any oil coming thru the turbo is too much.) Good Luck! let me know how it goes.
#16
#17
Figured part of it out
So as it turns out, when I cleaned the turbo, I neglected a few areas. The groove where the oil seal rests in the housing had a few spots of crud I missed, and the oil drain passage right behind that was totally blocked. It's really hard to explain how to find that passage, but i'll try...
If you look from the compressor side in toward the turbine, as far back as you can see, that needs to be spotless. If there's any crap there at all, get it out. Go at it from whatever angle you need to but remember this, If you look through the turbine shaft opening on the exhaust side down towards the drain port, and shine a flashlight up through the drain port, you should see all sorts of light. If you don't, keep digging. That was the case with mine. Once I got all the crap outta there, she runs like a top and doesn't smoke and stink anymore.
That may not be the case for everyone though. If I can remember later, i'll post the few pictures I have of what mine looked like before I cleaned 'er out.
[EDIT]
As for my surging issue, After I did a VGT Relearn, it was still happening, but I caught the MAP sensor bouncing all over the place. I replaced the MAP sensor and that took care of that...
If you look from the compressor side in toward the turbine, as far back as you can see, that needs to be spotless. If there's any crap there at all, get it out. Go at it from whatever angle you need to but remember this, If you look through the turbine shaft opening on the exhaust side down towards the drain port, and shine a flashlight up through the drain port, you should see all sorts of light. If you don't, keep digging. That was the case with mine. Once I got all the crap outta there, she runs like a top and doesn't smoke and stink anymore.
That may not be the case for everyone though. If I can remember later, i'll post the few pictures I have of what mine looked like before I cleaned 'er out.
[EDIT]
As for my surging issue, After I did a VGT Relearn, it was still happening, but I caught the MAP sensor bouncing all over the place. I replaced the MAP sensor and that took care of that...
Last edited by smoran22; 01-28-2016 at 07:00 AM. Reason: Add additional info
#19
Oil in exhaust
My understanding is that the seals in the turbo have nothing to do with stopping oil from entering. The issue seems to be that the rate of oil leaving the turbo thru the down tube into the crank case is too slow, letting it build up past the seals in the turbo and coming out. When I changed the down tube, the rate of oil coming thru definitely slowed down. Rather than a large puddle there is only a small trickle now. Cleaning the EGR valve didn't help much, and it wasn't that dirty anyway and there doesn't seem to be an excess of crank case pressure. I am sure the shop I got the turbo from would exchange it or replace the seals if they were at fault but from what I understand they are not the issue.
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