Sorry for being a little late to the party but I'm kinda in this guys shoes. I bought an 05 F250 last march and just got done installing a AFE intake, Edge Evolution, and 4" silverline exhaust. Since then I been cruising these message boards and everything I read makes it sound like I just ruined my truck from the reviews and feedback I've been hearing from everyone. I was just looking for fuel economy out of the programmer and figured exhaust would keep my EGTs down. Is there anything totally wrong with my assumptions or should I be removing most of this stuff as soon as possible? I installed all this stuff about a thousand miles ago and am at roughly 121,900 miles now

 

Looks like I'm going to go with Matt at gearhead getting his extreme, srs+ and 8000lb tow tunes...
Parts are stacking up and pulling the cab this weekend.
Parts so far;
Egr delete
Oem gaskets
Arp head studs
New oil cooler
Blue spring update
4" ss exhaust off the turbo back
Coolant bypass/circulation kit
Sinister coolant filtration system
Thinking of adding a regulated fuel return as well.

Can't wait to be done a let her rip again!

 

Well it's a double edged sword. First, I wouldn't mod for mileage reasons only, you'll likely be disappointed. I know I was. However, those that do see a gain in mileage, always see it with the hottest tunes, but you must keep your foot out of it. Your exhaust is fine, but I'm not a big fan of the Edge units. Keep it on a lower power setting and definitely don't beat on it.

I'm sure Karl will be poking in here shortly to tell you what a transmission costs and why you shouldn't run it, but your call. I'm sure if you drive responsibly and aren't beating on it, it should be ok.

Sounds like a fun build! My cab is hopefully going up this weekend!

 

Thanks for at least making me feel like I didn't just strap a bomb to my truck the way everyone else makes it sound haha

 

If you're hard on your truck, it is a time bomb IMO. We run the SCT stuff because it has the capability of accessing the TCM and making adjustments to the trans (the Edge does not, despite what it may say on the box) this allows us to run our trucks to full potential without worry of destroying transmissions. Even though, I've still been able to do it LOL. I can't imagine how short lived it would have been with a generic programmer.

Just use your head, you'll be fine.

 

Due to the enthusiastic reviews of these SCTs I am now doing what I should have done to begin with and researching a little more. Since I already have this Edge on it and if I would like to go to an SCT would I be able to use my EGT sensor from my Edge or would I need to spend the extra money on the SCT sensor that pushes the price to out of my interest then? I just use this truck as my daily driver and being a farmer occasionally hook a decent trailer to it. Just trying to find the most reliable mix of mileage and reliability. Also if I go ahead and pull the trigger on the SCT even if I drive it sensible and don't push it hard would I need to stud my heads and stuff anyways? Again I'm sorta price conscious

Thanks just these few responses from you have been very enlightening and helpful already

 

If you got an Edge insight unit of some sort you can continue to use it as gauges for sure, then just get the basic SCT hand held programmer for tuning purposes only, yes, that's what a lot of guys do.

The easiest way up front would have been to just get the SCT livewire TS, since it would have done all of that. Of course, probably not what you want to do at this point.

I would suggest custom tuning for sure, and keep the tunes mild. Maybe a street tune for fun, and a good towing tune for when you're working the truck.

Should run around $425-$450 for the SCT with three free custom tunes (as long as you don't do the extreme upgrades, which I would recommend staying away from on stock head bolts). Just keep in mind the more power you add, the more likely you are to blow the gaskets.

You may want to do a few other reliability upgrades too, perhaps monitor your engine oil temp and engine coolant temp now to ensure the health of your oil cooler. I would also look into an EGR delete, and a coolant filter.

 

Thanks again for your input. I've started monitoring the EOT as well as the ECT now (always was watching the ECT since got the programmer). You've been extremely helpful can't stress that enough

 

Keep a good eye on those, general rule of thumb is to not have a spread larger than 15* between the two. If oil temp starts rocketing up, the oil cooler is clogging and needs a replacement/rebuild. It's under $300 in parts to do, and can be the difference between headgaskets and blown egr coolers... most people don't even know that, but the oil cooler is the root cause.

Just paying it forward man...

 

Hey guys I'm new to diesels and I got a question about head studs. I have an 03 f250 6.0 with 115000 and I put 4in turbo back exhaust and I just ordered the sct livewire ts from innovative diesel. I also plan on an egr delete,new oil cooler,and coolant filter so i was wondering if that make it safe enough to run my custom tunes or if i should also put studs in.