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Old 10-03-2012 | 12:31 AM
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hi gentl I hope you can help me ,,,,,,,f350 6.0 2003 ,, 223 000 miles...the truck was running with no issues, the only problem was the oil leak, replaced the ICP sensor (was the problem) and was working great for 1 or 2 days only and the oil leak was worse and with a very thin consistency, then stop running, the mechanic told me to replace the (2)batteries, the FICM, glow plugs(8), we did all that, and works , but when it starts to warm up to normal temperature starts to vibrate and fail and stop working (but the oil leaking problem is there), and he told me to replace the H.P. oil pump for the leaking and the no start issue, return the next day to get the specification for the oil pump, and was checking the oil and remove the cover from which is filled,,,,,, I decided to start the truck, and the truck is running since 2 days ago, you can see a little air or smoke coming from where the oil is filled, but I have to leave it without a lid to keep the truck working, the oil leak is still coming form below the turbo,,,,,do I have to replace the HP oil pump or is a compression issue ..and asked the mechanis for the codes and at this moment is not Reading any code..... .thanks in advance.
 
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Old 10-03-2012 | 07:29 AM
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When you replaced the ICP sensor, did you replace the ICP wire harness and plug? It's recommended to change the ICP wire harness and plug when replacing a ICP sensor. The wire/plug can get damaged and cause running issues, plug might be soaked with oil and wires get damaged/melted/chaffed from the heat of the turbo.
http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-10-06.php

You need to start fresh, clean as much oil as possible. Drive around but keep a close eye out to see where leak is coming from. It maybe coming from the turbo feed, turbo drain, oil cooler housing, ect, ect.


Smoke/mist coming from the oil fill is normal to an extent, it's coming from spent oil gases within the motor, all motors do this. This is why you have a CCV. The CCV evacuates these spent gases, if you don't evacuate the spent gases, the pressure can build up and cause gaskets and seals to blow out causing oil leaks.


Are you sure it's oil? A small coolant leak mixing with oil can make you think it's a oil leak. Check your EGR cooler hose and check the oil cooler housing.
 
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Old 10-03-2012 | 09:26 AM
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Find a new tech first. You replaced a whole bunch of parts that were completely unnecessary and then people wonder why 6.0's are so expensive and never work right... well throwing parts at it isn't the way to diagnose.

We can help you with this. Follow what lilpooh said to a T and go from there. Any half wit who claims to know 6.0's (your incompetent technician) should know the 03/04 are notorious for having oil leak on that ICP sensor and the pig tail needs replacement too!

It may not be throwing codes, but he should be able to read a few other things to help with a good scanner. Just checking for trouble codes often gets us no where with these things.

At this point I would say for sure there is a high pressure oil leak. As the oil heats up and thins out it leaks easier and it's harder for the truck to build pressure to keep the injectors firing and then it dies. Makes sense. Like lilpooh said, clean it up really good and see where it's leaking from.
 
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Old 10-04-2012 | 04:00 PM
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Thanks guys for your prompt response, my truck is with another service shop, they say I need to replace the hp oil pump thats the problem,,they recommend me some things,, (instead of buying the HPOP this could work : STC New One-Piece High Pressure Oil Connector ) and installing the EGR deleted kit, ..what do you think
 
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Old 10-04-2012 | 04:10 PM
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The 03 and 04 trucks do not have the faulty STC fitting, only 05 and up trucks, this should tell you about the knowlege of this shop...... I would pull the IPR valve first and check on the condition of the screen, replace the "SCREEN" only, if needed, You do not need to replace the whole IPR valve. Check the Oring on the ICP to make sure it wan't damaged at install. Does the truck run at all?
 
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Old 10-04-2012 | 05:40 PM
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Ok ,,,,after all,,,,,I have the truck with me, now it has the check engine light on.......went to auto zone ,,and this is the code ....P132b , the truck is running good just need to wait for it to warm up to normal temperature... Is still leaking oil..!!!!!!! didn't replace anything I'm just waiting to find a good Mechanic....

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And they didn't not know this code means /..P132b
 

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Old 10-04-2012 | 08:30 PM
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Powerstroke 6.0L Technical Intro Manual
Save this link to your favorites, very helpful.
sure it's not P1378, that code is for Ficm under voltage which would explain hard starts and runs better when warm.
Waiting for the motor to warm up before it runs right can be caused by weak FICM and also by injector stiction, a bandaid fix for injector stiction is RevX ol additive, it realy works.
 
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Old 10-05-2012 | 08:34 AM
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That code is for turbo underboost. Turbo should be yanked and cleaned. DTS Articles - Turbocharger Reconditioning


Where are you located, maybe we can point you to a shop that knows powerstrokes, because so far none of the ones you mentioned do.

I would also have the batteries load tested at auto zone and then test the FICM yourself, the test procedure is at the top of the 6.0 page. Quite simple, just need an extra set of hands to turn the key when you ask.
 
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Old 11-25-2012 | 07:28 PM
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Great info on the ICP. I am thinking of moving the ICP to somewhere where it is easier to replace (I have replaced it twice in 60K miles) by threading a high-pressure hydraulic hose into the HPC opening and running it maybe a foot or so forward, where the ICP would be threaded on the end and well supported. Question: what kind of pressure is the ICP getting?? Hundreds or thousands of PSI?

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Old 11-26-2012 | 08:31 AM
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Thousands. The high pressure oil system runs up near and sometimes a hair above 4000psi.

Ford already took your idea, the 05+ have it in the passenger side valve cover... I'm sure you can convert it to that setup, but you'd probably need a bunch of parts to do it.
 


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