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Old 09-19-2010, 07:29 PM
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ya it is commercial its in a industrial park in Anderson (13 miles south of redding)
they have a bunch of ind/com buildings close together so it may not be too hard to get IDK I need to call the electric company and get a price the only down side is I would not be able to run it anywhere else if I moved shops
 
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:05 PM
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Before you move shops then you'd want to make sure you had 3-phase power supplied to it beforehand.

IMO converters are just energy hogs to get something done.

Are you sure it's a dedicate 3-phase? If it's a true 3-phase motor it will take L1, L2, and L3 wires and a ground... with no neutral.

If you've ever looked up anything about 3-phase, it uses 3 different currents each out of phase by 120 degrees, and the motor uses those to create a true magnetic field.

If it doesn't use all three phases, it's not a true 3-phase, and you may can purchase a different tap for the back of the machine that allows it to run single phase 240v.

The reason I don't think this is true 3-phase is the fact that it requires 240v... 240v three phase isn't usually popular in shops because it still has 120v lighting, outlets, and computer circuits...

In normal 3-phase it's 208/120 or 240/139 (if my numbers serve me right)... and some motors / heating elements only work 75% efficiently at 208v.

To get a true 240/120 you're going to need what they call a high delta leg on your transformer setup, and when purchasing a machine most shops don't have this.. they have a 208Y/120 instead of a high delta.
 
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:40 PM
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hmmm you may be right I am having a friend of mine come to look at it in the morning thanks Caleb
 
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Old 09-19-2010, 11:54 PM
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Look at the service coming into the shop. If there are 3 wires wrapped around the support cable, you have 3 phase.
 
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:05 AM
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huh?

oh got ya went by and looked its all underground..........
so pull the panel?
 

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Old 09-20-2010, 06:07 AM
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Yep, just pull the panel.

Inside the panel you should see three middle lugs if it is three phase instead of two.. A, B, C phases usually taped off Black, Red, Blue. Then you'll have another wire with white to your neutral lug which is bonded to ground.

If you only have two wires (not counting your neutral) then you're single phase.
 
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Old 09-20-2010, 02:10 PM
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hmmmmm well I only see a typical hook up ( 2 legs) so I dont have 3 phase but thats ok because I bought another mill this morning going to pick it up now actually that is a 230V single phase so now I guess I will sell the other one


Milling machine for sale......
 
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:36 AM
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Why don't you buy a single phase motor for the other mill, then you will have two mills.
 
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:54 AM
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I could but the motor I need for it is another 400 bucks a phase converter is only 300 bucks and now I have a mill that runs off 220 single there bolt the same size so having 2 is not a bad idea but I don't see me using it
 
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:26 PM
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Still in a delima with the compressor and the 3 phase lathe :P
 



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